The ridicule of “birthers”.
Even by those who should be listening very closely.
Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Anne Coulter, the list goes on. Conservative, Republicans, Independents? debatable, but one thing is certain, if you mention the “Birthers” or “Eligibility,” they will burst into uncontrollable laughter and derision, getting off the subject just as soon as they are able. “Why, aren’t we all on the same side?” you ask. The answer is simple: It is because these well known media pundits have allowed themselves to become, despite their “Right wing” reputations, Marxist puppets, responding as they (we) have been conditioned, for most of our lives, to respond.
You may deride the “Birthers,” but one thing is certain, if we were able to remove the person who purports to be President, and negate the almost irreparable damage he has wrought on our Country, we would all breathe a collective sigh of relief and at least have the opportunity to “Get it right next time.” His “Eligibility” could arguably offer such an opportunity, it could very well save America as we know it.
Are they puppets? Are they truly denying the possibility? Are they simply disregarding the possible in search for something better? I don’t know. But that article does ask some good questions, and lead to some probable answers.
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One problem that may be keeping main stream ‘conservatives’ in the media from looking at the matter of Buraq Hussein’s birth is simply that they fear what they will find. Those of us here and over at the Rott are not too concerned with following things to their logical conclusion. Hier stand ich! Ich kann nicht anders.
If you are a media person of good conscience [which rules out the state controlled media] and follow the evidence, there is at least probable cause to consider the working assumption that we are being ruled by a person not eligible to be president under the Constitution. That makes the automatic presumption of his loyalty to and goodwill for the country moot. And THAT means you are faced with a choice that can have unpleasant consequences either way you go. At the very least, you have to face the decision of whether or not to investigate further to confirm or deny and endure the heat one would have to ride for that act. And if you find to your satisfaction that he is not eligible, if you are intellectually and morally honest with yourself, you have to do something about it.
And if he is a deliberate fraud; both the investigation and action afterwards could be in the face of extremely prejudicial opposition.
Can you conceive of Bill O’Reilly putting his Life, Fortune, or Sacred Honor in the balance [especially the first two] to preserve the Constitution? Maybe eventually Ann Coulter; but then again in the past she has shown that she has more balls than what is pleased to call itself the “Leadership” of the Institutional Republican party.
Reflexive denial means that you never are faced with a decision that puts your lifestyle at risk. Put that lifestyle unambiguously at risk, prove to them that there is no way that they can collaborate with the enemy to preserve it; and the media types may be veritable Tigers in fighting for, if not the Constitution, at least the concept of Pursuit of Happiness.
No one knows, absolutely knows, how they will react when the organic waste impacts the rotating airfoil. And some who have jumped the right way in the past, will freeze in the future. Each time one has to measure themself afresh.
But some choose to avoid taking their own measurement, because they suspect that they already know the answer.
Subotai Bahadur
Excellent explanation Subotai, but how many of the leaders in This Nations beginnings risked their all? Their lives, their fortunes? How many of the foot soldiers did the same? Is it just “not that time” yet? How about some really good quiet snooping until the evidence is found, then when it is verified, THEN expose it? If it were absolutely iron-clad, would their fortunes then be risked? I simply can’t help but ask those questions. If nothing else, he IS a “dual citizen”. If NOTHING else. If he’s gone, his crew is gone, and we can fix this place.
My wife and I have been following this line of thought for the better part of the last year. She initially didn’t buy into it, but after reading a number of well researched and thought out arguments for it (Obama’s intelligibility for holding the office of President), Deb has since come around.
That he has (had) a mother who was an American citizen, is not a question. That he had a father who was NOT an American citizen, assuming Obama Sr was his father, is also not a question. Indeed, Obama himself has publicly admitted (at the very least, in print) his father was Kenyan, subject to either Kenyan citizenship or that of the British Empire.
This being the case, at best Obama is an American citizen, and or holds (or held) duel citizenship. But he is not, nor can he ever be “a natural born American”, as described in various papers of the founding fathers, and as demanded by the Untied States Constitution.
That the Senate and or Congress, gave the Republican Presidential candidate, John McCain, “a pass”, due to his ineligibility (he is also NOT “natural born American”) for the Presidency, is perhaps the dirty little secret keeping the GOP in check as far as directly challenging Obama’s status.
Now, assuming Obama is declared ineligible, what does that due to any and all legislation/executive orders/and or trade agreements signed by the Usurper-in-Thief? Probably nothing at all. The fact is, we have already, as a nation, been down this road before. Chester Alan Arthur, was found to have been a dual citizen. Granted this did not fully come to light until very recently, but has been rumored to be true for a number of years. Needless to say, none of his actions as President have been reversed.
It might also be worth noting, that the governor of Louisiana, Bobby Jindal, is also NOT a “natural born American”. Both his parents were not naturalized American citizens PRIOR to his birth in this country. (He is, none the less, an American born citizen, and a “native born” American. But does not meet the qualifications for “natural born”.) Governor Jindal can hold any other office, he can not hold the office of the President. Those on the conservative/GOP side of the street would do well to remember this, if he is ever seriously thrust into the possibility of being placed on some future party ticket for this office. (Two wrongs don’t make a right.)
Understand. But ObaMao has been SO toxic to this nation that this would allow for a purge of his programs.
My question is, what will it take to get rid of “precedent”???
Wish to fuck I knew.
We won the election and now these sore losers will continue to spew your hate with lies. The way ours courts work is that you get a competent lawyer, verifiable facts and present them to a judge, if the facts are real and not half baked lies, then, and only then, you proceed to trial. they seem to be having a problem with their half baked lies. Their actions are very funny, but to sign on with them, they really need to win a case, but until then, they will continue to appear dumb, crazy or racist, or maybe all three. Keep plucking that chicken.
The “lies” you speak of are fact. Admitted by Hussein himself. His father was a Kenyan college student (or so he says), who therefore was a British subject, thereby making Hussein a dual citizen NOT a natural born one. He (or Bill Ayers writing as Hussein) admitted should the SHTF, he’d side with the mooselips. Every indication so far backs that claim up. Next?
You know Montana, why dont you try looking into the issue instead of just blindly believing its false and hate speach. Dont just go to your usual sites either, you know the MSNBC crowd, Cuz, you know, Keith Olbermann doesnt do hate speach at all.
Indeed.
Thing is, this really has nothing to do with the birth certificate (the real one not the “Certificate of Live Birth). And as such, is not a “birthers issue, but a straight stick constitutional one. Montana needs to get their head out of their anal orifice, stop spouting “talking points”, and stick to the issue at hand.
Or am I just pissing at the wind?
Pissing at the wind. Eventually, maybe, they will be exposed to the cure for recto-cranial inversion. This will occur in approximately 1 more year, if we don’t save this country from that cure in November. This cure, however, will not be restricted to those suffering the disease, which is why those of us NOT suffering need to avoid the pain involved.