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08/23/2013

Federal Judge Establishes Islam As Official and Protected Religion of America
Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/12238/federal-judge-establishes-islam-as-official-and-protected-religion-of-america/#KMaVQWFWO95Rrx0K.99

I can’t write about this. My blood pressure has been doing just fine lately, but this would probably send me to the e.r.

I will say this: Isn’t there an Amendment about that in the Constitution? Oh, wait, the First ONE!

And, might PIG shit have been a better title for this post?

64 Comments
  1. poetopoet permalink
    08/23/2013 13:12

    This will go down before the Appeals Court or Supreme Court, if not shit upon shit will run.

  2. upaces88 permalink
    08/23/2013 14:12

    I am surprised to read this BU NOT SHOCKED. I have been saying for months now that on September 11 of this year that he will declare the U.S. as a Muslim Nation (either by strong hinting or inference; OR, he will come out and damn will say it.

    Poet, he has “3” of HIS Judges on the Supreme Court. I am very fearful for all of us.

  3. poetopoet permalink
    08/23/2013 15:45

    upaces88: They are all of Jewish leanings or x non-practicing. This has gone to far for any court to decide! A constitutional amendment or reaffirmation is now called for, fat chance, I know, it looks like blood will run in ever state of confusion.

  4. 08/23/2013 17:00

    Under the constitution and the natural law it embodies you do not have the right to deny a man his rights even if you have a 300,000,000 million to 1 plurality.

    This however is not one of those cases. The Oklahoma law prevents sharia being applied in replacement of American law and precedent. Freedom of religion does not mean you get to replace the existing system with a system of your choosing to please your blood thirsty moon god. Judges who rule otherwise demonstrate they do not have the legal acumen to serve as judge of the best pig at the county fair let alone determine what the constitution plainly means. They need to be de-benched and disbarred

    The constitution is the system. Sharia is a rival system. They cannot co-exist simultaneously in the same place.

  5. 08/23/2013 17:14

    Some more horse shit

    But blacks can’t be racist. The next person who says that to me gets backhanded on to their ignorant ass.

    It’s ugly and getting uglier.

  6. 08/23/2013 20:16

    I’m horribly confused. None of the articles I’ve read clear things up, and I just don’t have the desire to really dig into this. So, I’ll state my opinion based on what I understand from poor, and possibly biased, reporting. I would welcome any factual clarifications that might change my opinion, provided that they’re factual, and not based on more crappy reporting.

    A. Should Sharia law be applied by a judge in a civil or criminal case? No, it shouldn’t.

    B. Should individuals be allowed to agree by contract to be bound by Sharia law in the event that a contract dispute proceeds to Binding Arbitration? Yes, they should.

    They should also be allowed to contractually bind themselves to the results of Binding Arbitration conducted entirely in the Klingon language, by Trekkie accepted Klingon law, and presided by an arbitrator who speaks only Klingon.
    UNLESS, the results of such binding arbitration would be tortious or criminal (which, btw, is already not allowed by law whether it springs from Sharia law or Klingon ritual). If it’s not otherwise tortious or criminal, then I don’t give a rat’s ass what two morons agree to in contract.

    C. Which of the above did the bill/amendment propose to ban?

    D. Was this a duly passed “state constitutional amendment”, or is it “the Oklahoma anti-sharia bill, SQ-755″?
    I don’t have a clue what the procedure is, in Oklahoma, for amending the Oklahoma Constitution; but, if it’s anything like most other states or the fedgov, then it can’t be BOTH a bill AND an amendment to the Constitution. The two are not the same animal. One is subject to judicial review, the other is not.

    1. IF it was a bill, then it’s constitutionality (Fed & State) could be challenged.
    2. IF it really was an amendment to the state constituion, then (assuming that Oklahoma is like any other state or the fedgov) there could be no challenge by CAIR or the ACLU, and no judge has any business making any kind of ruling about it.
    3. Therefore, I doubt VERY highly that this was a duly enacted amendment to the State Constitution.

    E. If I had to guess (and I do because people reporting can’t be relied on to tell a bill from a constitutional amendment — and maybe their ass from their elbow), this was a bill which would have banned using Sharia Law BOTH in civil & criminal cases — which is fine — AND banned Sharia Law in contractually agreed to binding arbitration — which is about the INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO CONTRACT.
    Because the second part (banning Sharia Law in binding arbitration) OUGHT to be challenged and struck down, the fact that the first part (which ought to be law everywhere, but which should rightly include any and all foreign law — not just Sharia) got struck down along with it is the result of a poorly crafted bill. A bill drafted by people who don’t know the difference between civil & criminal law, and the right of the individual to contract to just about any damned crazy thing he feels like, provided that it doesn’t offend civil or criminal law.

    F. Did the 70% of Oklahomans who voted(?) for this amendment (or bill, or whatever it was) know what binding arbitration is, that it is different from civil & criminal law, that it is agreed to in advance by two parties signing a contract with one another, and that binding arbitration that requires one party or the other to do something which is tortious or criminal is ALREADY invalid and illegal?

    If not, why was the bill (or amendment, or whatever) not written in a way that would make the difference between law and contractual arbitration clear to them in plain language?

    Also, if not, what the hell were they doing voting(?) on it one way or the other?

    G. In short, this is much ado about nothing, except shoddy reporting and a misunderstanding of the difference between the law and something agreed to in a contract.

    H. As a tangent, it is my opinion that the only good muslim is a bad muslim. That is, bad at being muslim. If one is a good muslim (adhering strictly to the muslim faith) then one is a bad person. Conversely, if one is a good person, then he cannot be a good (devout) muslim.

    just my 4 cents.

  7. poetopoet permalink
    08/23/2013 20:17

    FX Phillips: Please note, that person “gets backhanded on to their ignorant ass”. that can be considered and corkscrewed as a sexual act, dry or wet.

  8. poetopoet permalink
    08/23/2013 20:30

    Gyrwan: You’re four cents, is two cents!

    The U.S. Constitution and its amendments are the only laws, We the People live by and obey.

  9. upaces88 permalink
    08/23/2013 21:03

    Poet, I think you are right….it is going to be horrible………………..
    —————–
    By the way, did you see the articles that have come out in the last couple of days about the Louisiana Sink Holes?
    I still think within 10 years….the Southern half of Louisiana will be gone.

  10. 08/24/2013 05:11

    Gyrwanasks

    Was this a duly passed “state constitutional amendment”, or is it “the Oklahoma anti-sharia bill, SQ-755″?

    This appears to be some imprecision on the part of the author in his quest for variety of phrasing State Question(SQ)755 was the vehicle for the Oklahoma constitutional amendment. It passed overwhelmingly and was seen as a corrective for a growing number of decisions being based in laws other than those promulgated pursuant to the common law and statutory law pursuant to the constitution. Oklahoma like many states out west appears to be an “initiative and referendum” state. The introduction of “direct democracy” is ironically one of the tactics introduced into this country by early 20th century progressives in order to subvert the protections ensconced in the constitutional representative framework. It is itself a constitutionally dubious practice considering the constitution provides each state be guaranteed a “republican from of government”(article 4 section 4)

    IF it really was an amendment to the state constituion, then (assuming that Oklahoma is like any other state or the fedgov) there could be no challenge by CAIR or the ACLU, and no judge has any business making any kind of ruling about it..

    Therefore, I doubt VERY highly that this was a duly enacted amendment to the State Constitution.

    This is incorrect. The suit was brought in Federal court. It is in the same vein as the duly passed Prop 8 that amended the California constitution that confirmed that marriage is between one man and one women. Adjudication of First Amendment rights are a federal matter and states are brought explicitly under that umbrella by the 14th amendment. That being said this has nothing to do with religious freedom or the establishment jurisprudence of recent vintage which has been wholly hostile to any religion being introduced into any governmental sphere. Sharia is a system of laws for governance at odds with the established legal order of the United States as are the much ballyhooed and mythical concepts of ‘international law”. By citing laws that American’s had no input in forming they are making us subject to the whims of intellectually vain egoists to pick and choose the laws that confirm their own bias and that we are then bound, at least in their minds, to follow.

    I will agree that as long as the elements of a contract are there you can contract on any stupid basis you wish. Basing contracts on Shari’a cannot be used to evade the rights and protections afforded by US law and this, I think, was the thinking behind this law. Since Shari’a also has a religious veneer it would be held sacrosanct and given preference especially by the third world immiserationist dhimmis who populate the so called “liberal” left.

    Like with all invasive species or ideas entree needs to be curtailed. The basic premise of Shari’a is it is supreme not complimentary. They do not have the western tradition of tolerance or honesty towards the “other”. They think nothing of dissembling or out right lying about their goals if they think it will help establish their preference. This is why they get along(at least for now) with the “liberals” in this country.

    Any lie for the cause.

  11. poetopoet permalink
    08/24/2013 07:41

    upaces88: Very Scary stuff, I for one do not believe they (we) have ten years. Some state the sink hole is 9,ooo. feet down and a state or two wide at the bottom already. A little earthquake will burst it wide open, all solid matter land, etc are gone. The facts do not look good.

  12. 08/24/2013 07:43

    I see my veins starting to rise.

  13. poetopoet permalink
    08/24/2013 07:43

    FX Phillips: No common sense, I guess when Rome burns it will the Christians fault.

  14. 08/24/2013 07:48

    Looks good to ME, poet. I will miss the cooking though.

  15. poetopoet permalink
    08/24/2013 07:52

    cmblake6: Your veins, my brains are bursting, I see nothing good there.

  16. 08/24/2013 08:00

    Ya know, the 1A protects your exercise of any religion you may choose to follow. By that very same token, you may not force your religion on others. Pisslam, by it’s very insistence on that factor, invalidates itself in America.

  17. poetopoet permalink
    08/24/2013 08:32

    That is called common sense, that is not very common today.

  18. 08/24/2013 08:44

    Indeed.

  19. Dr. Jeff permalink
    08/24/2013 11:09

    Poe, I have so far said little about your Antisemitism. How you connect Judaism to various failings of non religious or anti religious people and un American people is beyond me. It is quite safe to say that as a Jew, I know much more about Judaism than you do. You really should save your poisonous fantasies for Skinhead websites.

    I am also disgusted that Poe’s bias in this area has not been heretofore challenged.

    That said, I’m out of here.

    Notifications from this web site will now be sent directly to my spam folder.

  20. upaces88 permalink
    08/24/2013 11:31

    Poet, a “NINE THOUSAND FEET SINK HOLE?” They could very well mean that the entire state of Louisiana will disappear.

    ————————-
    I know I am just one person; but I am very hurt because the Military has not stepped in to save our country.

  21. poetopoet permalink
    08/24/2013 13:17

    upaces88: Our military is nothing more than a collection Napoleon wannabes who are easily controlled by the Obama administration, regrettably.

  22. poetopoet permalink
    08/24/2013 14:25

    Dr. Jeff: My “They are all of Jewish leanings or x non-practicing.” touched the Jew in you, did it?

    My reference was to, upaces88: “Poet, he has “3″ of HIS Judges on the Supreme Court. I am very fearful for all of us.”

    Enough so for you to call my critiques as Anti-Semitism! Dr. Jeff the Supreme Court has three “They are all of Jewish leanings or x non-practicing.” at-least, whether they practice, preach or are exposed in their decisions, they are Jews, not ultra orthodox Jews but ultra orthodox liberals.

    Dr. Jeff: I think to be a Jew; you have to be the most ignorant dishonest and lame excuse for human being. Wake Up! God has disowned you for your types crucified Him and to this day you deny it. God even told you, you would!

    God cried when He tore the Temple Curtain in half, at 3pm hearing His Son say: “Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani.

    “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”

    “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing”

    “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise”

    “Father, into Your hands I commit my spirit”

    “Dear Woman, here is your son!” and “Here is your mother!”

    “It is finished!”

    Dr. Jeff get over it, your gilt trip and postulations will not save you. I suggest you join Jews for Jesus, a very nice group of practicing Jews who believe in Jesus Christ and they are not so thin skinned as you are a Judas and spam all you want, for the NSA knows you are a Real Jew and I am not next, but you may be again.

  23. 08/24/2013 15:37

    Jeff, I am one of those Americans for Israel. Jesus was a Jew, and most of His early followers were as well until He spread His salvation and wisdom to other groups. I truly believe that Poet was frustrated by the extreme level of liberalism shown in the Jewish community. We share the same God, as opposed to the Sumerian moon-god followed by pisslam. Forgive him, for he knows only that factor.

  24. 08/24/2013 15:54

    FX Phillips,

    Thanks for your comment and the link to the other article. I’m somewhat clearer now on what’s going on.

    You’re right that I made a mistake about the challenge and the judge’s injunction. I was thinking that it was a state court. I should probably stop complaining about shoddy reporting if I’m not even going to read said reporting carefully.

    Everyone,

    I’m still unclear as to whether the state question-amendment-thingamajig included a ban on using Sharia in arbitration; but it’s clear that that’s not what the challenge or the injunction were based on.

    I bring up arbitration because there was, a couple years back, some hubbub about Sharia being used in courts (in Florida, I think); but it turned out that it was binding arbitration. As far as I know courts haven’t applied Sharia in civil cases … yet. I could easily be mistaken about that, too, though.

    Still, British courts HAVE applied Sharia, and since we share similar common law it’s definitely a danger here. Especially because of the stranglehold that the left has on the judiciary … and lawyers and the law in general.

    Since the challenge and injunction have nothing to do with arbitration, and since I was wrong about which court was imposing the injunction; I stand corrected, … I’m with you fellers. The bitch was wrong, this IS an outrage.

    I had read probably three other short articles about this issue, and none of them was very clear on exactly what the proposed law (state question-thingamajig) was, what was in it, whether it could or should have been ruled on by the judge, or just what the hell was going on. I get testy when everyone’s got an answer, and I still don’t know what the question is.

    You guys can disregard all that stuff I said before.

    Uh, …. sorry.

  25. 08/24/2013 16:06

    You are forgiven. My reaction to this sharia thing was an instant explosion as well.

  26. 08/25/2013 05:29

    Gyrwan:

    Here is the plain text of the amendment It is a pdf so I can’t extract and post it.

    They way I read it it is meant to curtail using precedents that do not have their basis in the American canon of jurisprudence as too many judges pick and choose only those items that satisfy their inner Anthony Kennedy. It is broad enough however that someone could attempt to make it extend to private contracts. Again I think it is more of a response to the clandestine introduction of the concept of a parallel legal system. Part of the civilizational jihadist program is a purposeful self segregation which you see happening all over Europe.

    As I said prior, as long as the basic elements of a contract are there, one of which is that it not be used to evade US law, you can use any fool basis for a private contract.

    Gyrwan says:

    As far as I know courts haven’t applied Sharia in civil cases … yet. I could easily be mistaken about that, too, though.

    America’s a big country. So you are forgiven if you don’t remember this one

    Last week, an American judge in Pennsylvania, Judge Mark Martin, ruled on the case and sided with the Muslim, and said that the victim would have been put to death in Muslim societies for his “crime.”

    Martin told Perce: “Having had the benefit of having spent over two and a half years in predominantly Muslim countries I think I know a little bit about the faith of Islam. … In many Arabic-speaking countries something like this is definitely against the law there. In their society in fact it can be punishable by death and it frequently is in their society.”

    Perhaps someone should have re-oriented Judge Martin that he holds his position in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA not fucking Shoddy Retardia.

    So not only is he a dhimmi he was an American soldier and judge who took an oath to defend the constitution not the feelings of a follower of the pedophile war lord. It is irrelevant what his fate would have been in that sand inundated shit hole. Here words are not a valid excuse for assault. Unless of course you are a self important, self anointed 100% dhimmified adjutant of the mutaween

  27. 08/25/2013 06:01

    I truly believe that Poet was frustrated by the extreme level of liberalism shown in the Jewish community.

    Chris this isn’t the first time Poe has done this. In fact we have all been subjected one way or another.

    I don’t know what his problem is. Only he can say. But I get the feeling it is something more than just cosmopolitanism in the Jewish faith.

    At this point I don’t even know if he agrees with this. It is relatively new doctrine but being the metaphorical descendent of Peter the Pope appears to have such authority.

    Ever since this dust up I have tried to avoid itto my everlasting shame but when people start to leave because of it…

    That’s not a threat to leave I don’t play that way but Jeff was/is and hopefully will be a thoughtful contributor to the discussion here. It’s one thing to examine why certain parts of society act in the manner they do I think Poe crosses the line.

    Since the diaspora Jews have been considered the “other” and subjected to all kinds of rumor and conspiracy theories to justify their maltreatment.

    To Jeff: My apologies apparently the Niemoller poem was directed at my cowardly ass.

    To Poe: Clean it up. I don’t know what your problem is but it detracts from your message. Repeating age old slanders does not do your credibility any good.

    To CM: I’m sorry if this starts a shit storm. But it is way overdue.

  28. 08/25/2013 06:41

    CmBlake6,
    Thanks. I try to be careful about my outrage** at the news of the day and not jump on bandwagons. A thing that troubles me is when I see folks on my political side get worked up over things they shouldn’t, and not outraged enough at things I think they ought to. I thought this was one of those times. It wasn’t. I didn’t do my own due diligence on this one, and spouted off prematurely.
    Your forgiveness is much appreciated.

    FX Phillips,
    Thanks for your help on this one. The text of the proposed amendment is what I should have searched out initially before opening my big yap.
    I remember the “choking Mohammed” incident, but not the muzzy-symp judge’s insane ruling. So thanks for that too.

    ** with so many things to be outraged about, I don’t really get outraged at the news itself anymore. Plus, the multitude of outrages makes it hard to keep track of, or even remember, all of them (like the PA Mohammed-choking). I’m just sort of on a constant simmer all the time.

  29. 08/25/2013 06:47

    I’m just sort of on a constant simmer all the time.

    I’m with you there.

  30. 08/25/2013 07:16

    No argument. There were a few times when I cringed myself, and I did send Dr Jeff an email apology p.m. I do hope he forgives us. Well, me for allowing it. Poe, once upon a time you weren’t like this. Or if you were, you didn’t go off like this anyway. WTF, dude?

  31. 08/25/2013 07:18

    SHARP!

  32. poetopoet permalink
    08/25/2013 08:56

    FX Phillips: You stated:

    “I don’t know what his problem is. Only he can say. But I get the feeling it is something more than just cosmopolitanism in the Jewish faith.”

    “Like with all invasive species or ideas entree needs to be curtailed.”

    “Some more horse shit,,,,But blacks can’t be racist. The next person who says that to me gets backhanded on to their ignorant ass…..It’s ugly and getting uglier.”

    “Judge not, that you be not judged.” (Matthew 15:1-9 RSV)

    “Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, “Why do Your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat.” He answered them, “And why do you transgress the Commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die.’ But you say, ‘If any one tells his father or his mother, What you would have gained from me is given to God, he need not honor his father.’ So, for the sake of your tradition, you have made void the word of God. You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me; in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.”

    I too don’t know what your problem is. Only God can say what your backhanded racism statements are like mine. Please do not judge me for you may be judged by your own hypocrisy, for I am a citizen of the world.

  33. poetopoet permalink
    08/25/2013 09:06

    “I’m just sort of on a constant simmer all the time.

    I’m with you there.”

    Would I offend anyone I said if I said “Me Too” ?

  34. 08/25/2013 09:33

    Quite frankly Poe there was nothing remotely untoward about making a comment about a clear double standard that imputes all the guilt on one party.

    The fact is you need to twist the words of others and create a false equivalence.

    The article clearly depicted a vile hateful black man who would have been fired summarily for being a violent racist if he were not a minority. You know that as well as anyone.

    And what God thinks of what I said or your hackneyed use of “Don’t judge lest ye be judged” I can’t say. I don’t speak for him. However I am quite sure that my judgement is based on evidence and sound reasoning. Unlike like a lot of things I’ve done in my life I think I’ve got the facts on my side on that one. Unlike your all too often blanket condemnation of Jews my comment cannot reasonably be construed as “all blacks are racist” as a matter of fact it refutes the progressive idea that the definition of racism changes with melanin content. He is clearly a hateful bigot calling him one is just being accurate.

    And no. No one takes offense when you keep it on track and civil. No one here is afraid of strong words. However quite often you stray way over that line.

  35. 08/25/2013 10:28

    To bolster my point.

    From John McWhorter who the last time I checked is a man of color.(first blockquote)

    For the time being, though, it’s time for the media to stop proudly emblazoning the race of white cops who kill black boys while cagily describing black teens as, say, “from the grittier part of town,” as has been the case regarding Lane’s killers. The media needs to be as honest with black people as we need to be with ourselves. No group gets ahead by turning away from its real problems.

    McWhorter’s last sentence is key. Has our elite cultural practice of minimizing black violence and denying black racism helped the black community? Is the present generation of young black males better off in any measurable way because of our current reluctance to deal with the facts as they are rather than the facts as we wish them to be?

    Mc Whorter doesn’t implicate race in the case of the Oklahoma baseball player murder but he doesn’t discount it either. Pointing out an obvious case ,putting a name to it and then expressing no more tolerance for the sophistry that blacks do not act from racial animus is only “racist” from some one struggling to defame the messenger with a false equivalence.

  36. poetopoet permalink
    08/25/2013 12:11

    FX Phillips: Twisting the Word of God.

    In Matthew 12:9–14 Jesus was in a synagogue on the Sabbath; and there was a man with a paralyzed hand. Some people wanted to accuse Him of doing wrong and asked Him whether it is against their Law to heal (work) on the Sabbath.

    Jesus asked them if any of them had a sheep which fell into a deep hole on the Sabbath whether they would rescue it. Then to prove His point, He healed the man with the paralyzed hand.

    What was Jesus saying there? Was He encouraging people to break one of the Ten Commandments as they accuse Him?

    No! What Jesus is saying: Beware of those who would use God’s Words for their own ends, for some would either take it literally or miss-quote it to suit their own argument and to their benefit, as in the classic example of the false teachers aka false prophets. Even Islam honors Jesus Christ as a prophet and reveres his mother Mary, especially in Turkey, but not a single word of honor in all of the Jews.

    O yes, their King Herod could not either find anything too twist or bad. So the Jews brought Jesus before a Roman once the world’s greatest power, as they have here in America that is no longer. They have stricken God and Jesus from everywhere and everything, by good Jewish lawyers, in name only?

    Let me tell you of Jesus Christ’s pre-Jewish Existence

    Jesus testified that he had a pre-Jewish existence, when he said: “No man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man.” (John 3:13) Jesus also stated: “I am the living bread that came down from heaven; if anyone eats of this bread he will live forever; and, for a fact, the bread that I shall give is my flesh in behalf of the life of the world.”—John 6:51.

    Jesus states, if you believe he existed, he was alive before coming to the earth, it is clear from his own words in the old and new testaments testifying 276-350 times: “Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.” (John 8:58) Abraham lived from 2018 to 1843 B.C.E., whereas Jesus’ human life ran from 2 B.C.E. to 33 C.E. Just before his death, Jesus prayed: “Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.”—John 17:5. “ and whose Jesus Christ’s father, Himself?

  37. 08/25/2013 13:00

    When they came to the place called The Skull, there they crucified Him and the criminals, one on the right and the other on the left. 34But Jesus was saying, “Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing.” And they cast lots, dividing up His garments among themselves. 35And the people stood by, looking on. And even the rulers were sneering at Him, saying, “He saved others; let Him save Himself if this is the Christ of God, His Chosen One.”… Luke 23:33-35

    If Jesus asked God for their forgiveness who am I to deny it? My assumption is he asked for forgiveness for all who betrayed him as that was his reason for being on Earth- The redemption of man. Whether they recognized it or not it was their loss. They were not going to be denied because of Jesus suffering. They would be saved if they accepted it.The door was opened not to be closed.

    As for your implication that I twist the word of God, Jesus or anyone else that is just pure dishonesty.

  38. poetopoet permalink
    08/25/2013 13:29

    Please, Quote No More from your cravenness Raven twisted forked tongue; I beseech you, less you die a thousand deaths by Allah’s hand and before ten thousand male Muslim eunuchs welcome you home and O FX, for I Thomas G. McGowan listen, read and discern what is right and what is wrong with you and especially myself, not for the Greater Good, but because that is up to God, not for me too imply, although I do enjoy indulging in you.

  39. 08/25/2013 13:47

    You really have lost your tether on reality.

    False piety like patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. You have revealed yourself to such a scoundrel Thomas G McGowan.

    Have a nice day! :-)

  40. poetopoet permalink
    08/25/2013 13:52

    There you go again, generalizing and twisting Gods and Jesus words, for who, you? Sorry, I forgot to add my semi-compliment, especially of your babble in blah, blah, blah; talk about incoherent senseless and defenseless verbiage and eating the cake that is a dud that is far from explosive revelations of honesty, that you can take your cake and eat too.

  41. 08/25/2013 14:01

    Another total non-sequitur.

    Address the points or give up. You long ago revealed yourself sir. You don’t like what I write don’t read it. I write for my own mental health not to entertain the delusional. If you have cogent criticism by all means I’m willing to listen. However your last two posts are the ravings of lunatic.

  42. poetopoet permalink
    08/25/2013 14:56

    Fx, can I call you Ben like in Benedict Arnold, for you now know my name? My tether or umbilical cord is secure in the words of and by God. Now, that you have acknowledged and witnessed my patriotism as my last refuge, as false piety, a scoundrel sounds innate by revelation of your anti Christ worshiping.

    Your “Another total non-sequitur” sounds a lot like another Obama Sequester, worshiper to me. Because I do believe you do write to entertain and sustain your delusional mental health, like all progressive demonic liberal democrats.

    You are no more cognizant of that than the Man in the Moon and that is my clinical definition of you and others who may deny God or Christ, as my PHD.

    You just wait till nightfall to have a nice night, you blood sucking Muslim and Jew lover, never Black of course, for might be gay and have HIV. I hope that covers it for you and lets cmblake end this charade, because I am sick of you too.

  43. 08/25/2013 15:39

    PHD? Pathetically hairy derriere?

    It’s CM’s place. He’s free to stop me anytime he wishes. But answer me one question; does spittle fly from your maw onto your screen as you mouth the words to your asinine pseudo-religious/pseudo intellectual drivel?

    But back on point. You drove away a perfectly good contributor who has given more insight into matters discussed on this website than you would, PHD or not, if you live 70 more years because of some bug you have up your ass about about Jews and Jewish conspiracy blood libels that have been circulating for CENTURIES. So not only are you a bigot you are an unoriginal bigot at that. If that sentiment gets me banned so be it. What? Did some kid named Irving Lipschitz beat you up when you were but a wee lad?

    This is CM’s site and he controls the frequency. He has always been fair with me and if have overstepped my place I will accept my fate.

    You sleep soundly Thomas, secure in the knowledge that your little red choo-choo has gone chugging around the bend. Muslim? With a name like Francis Xavier? Bwaaaahahahahaha. That’s rich. You are the one who brought up the fact that Jesus is a prophet mentioned in Mighty Mo’s Manifesto of Murder and Mayhem. Tell me should we ally ourselves with the savage splodeydopes against the Jews just because the Mohammed glommed onto a class act? If the answer is yes then we need your address so we can send the guys who hand out those stylish white jackets-you know the ones that tie in back- to come and take you away in the rubber truck to a nice quite room where you won’t hurt yourself. Quite frankly I’m surprised CAIR hasn’t tracked me down considering I don’t use a pseudonym. But that’s my own delusion of grandeur I guess.

    Damn OCD I want to stop but I just can’t.

    But seriously Thomas and I only say this because I am not a total misanthrope: Some decaffeinated brands are just as tasty as the original. Or is it some other spirit that turns you into Mr Hyde? Remember your name sake purportedly OD’d on that stuff.

    Thomas says:

    You just wait till nightfall to have a nice night, you blood sucking Muslim and Jew lover, never Black of course, for might be gay and have HIV. I hope that covers it for you

    Mheh.

    You need to get the money back you spent on your PHD.

  44. 08/25/2013 16:43

    Poe, back off of this slamming the Jews. It was the Pharisees, the OTT formal “leaders”, that wanted Jesus killed. He was a threat to their authority. The Jewish PEOPLE, as a whole, loved Him. Jesus was their window to God. The Pharisees wanted to keep their power as the Temple Keepers, they are the ones who sucked up to Rome to keep their power as the “rulers of the people” in Israel. The Jewish people themselves were a good strong God fearing nation. And still are. They are God’s chosen. Not to mention, if no other factor sways you, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. The moonbat followers of the pedophile “prophet” hate them, and us. Infidels, and all that shit. So, please, drop this shit. Now.

  45. 08/25/2013 16:56

    This is bullshit. Within the Christian religion we have had the Catholics vs the Protestants. The mooselips have their own Sunni vs Shia. On, and on, and on. At least we and the Jewish people share the same God.

  46. 08/25/2013 16:57

    One other thing that flew right by me.

    you blood sucking Muslim and Jew lover…or might be gay and have HIV

    How do you square that circle? Again, you need to sue those who gave you your PHD for lack of performance.

  47. 08/25/2013 16:59

    It is all bullshit I do not understand, FX. Truly.

  48. 08/25/2013 17:11

    Maybe some tunes to break the mood?

    I’m sorry to have caused you such angst on this. While I I like a spirited debate something like this demeans everyone involved. It is sad Poe has chosen to go down this road. It was a discussion that needed to be engaged.

    To paraphrase what Dirty Harry said to the vigilantes cops ” I think he has misjudged us”.

  49. 08/26/2013 01:41

    WOW, what in the Wide Wide World of Sports happened here? CM all I can say is poe might as well never show up at my place. After one attempted post to get his IP info I would ban his whole damn sub-net just to make sure.

    As you know from the Rott I am an avowed Born Again Agnostic but, I do not allow beating up on religions. Islam of course is a Culture not a religion!

  50. 08/26/2013 06:45

    I really didn’t want to say anything on this as I am a new commenter. I’ve been lurking a while, though, and I have four observations:

    [Caveat: I in no way share poetopoet's hatred of Jewish people, nor do I share his conspiratorial fantasies about Jews.]

    1. Poetopoet’s comments make it clear that his hatred of Jews is absolute and brooks no exceptions. And that the reasons for the hatred are either unexplained, or require following poetopoet down his own personal rabbit-hole of conspiracies. And who’s got time for that?

    2. The major issue seems to be that his hatred and conspiracy theory are
    A. not shared by anyone else, and
    B. brought up all the time, out of the blue, and in irrelevant or non-sequitur ways.

    3. I believe that a man is entitled to hate whoever he wants, for whatever reasons he wants, or for no reason at all.

    4. What a man is NOT entitled to do is enter another man’s house as a guest and make a point of insulting all the other guests for no good reason.

  51. 08/26/2013 07:39

    Gyrwan, I said it before. You are going to fit in here just fine.

  52. 08/26/2013 07:43

    Indeed, Pisslam is the Arab Mafia.

  53. 08/26/2013 07:46

    I’m sorry, guys and gals. I was baffled by that, and didn’t want to believe my own lyin’ damn eyes. Let us move on from here, shall we?

  54. 08/26/2013 15:50

    Let us move on from here, shall we?

    You know me CM

    Forgive. But never forget.

  55. 08/26/2013 16:00

    I know how that works.

  56. 08/26/2013 16:14

    Gyrwan

    Yeah I know how you feel.

    I remember the day I followed CM home after he published one of my first rants at the Rott. I was apologizing for 1000+ word posts and butting in but you will overcome it. You have a very readable style that will be an asset to the discussion.

    The more voices the better. Even if you disagree feel free. This is not an echo chamber. If you have something to add speak up. Strong words and strong views are welcome. It helps us all become smarter.

    As CM said you will fit in nicely.

  57. 08/26/2013 19:52

    Thanks, CMBlake and FX. I am an S.O.A. — a Stubborn Opinionated (or Ornery) Asshole. I hold my opinions very strongly (even when I’m wrong), and I’m not shy about expressing them (even when I make an ass out of myself). On the positive side, I’m also not reticent to admit when I’m either wrong, or an ass.

    I hope I continue to fit in. I think that’s dependent upon finding people with whom you can (and do) disagree; but neither too often nor too much.

    I agree, CMBlake, “Let us move on from here, shall we?” BUT, one last thing …

    I did feel I was presumptuously butting-in regarding Poetopoet — which I don’t like to do when it comes to individuals (rather than opinions or ideas) — but I had noticed the anti-jewish comments before I ever commented myself, and it actually made me a little hesitant to stop lurking and start commenting.

    I think the issue wasn’t so much that his anti-Jewish comments were “hateful”, insulting, unwanted, and generally disagreed with; nor that they were numerous, continual, and off-topic. It was that they were both.

    Makes it disruptive and hard to ignore.

    Poetopoet put you, CMBlake, in the toughest position — to tell Poetopoet EITHER:
    1. that he was a conspiracy kook and that conspiracy theories aren’t welcome here; OR,
    2. that he was just a “hate-monger”, and so wasn’t allowed to express his “hater” opinion here.

    That’s a tough position to be put in when neither of those things are true.

  58. 08/27/2013 01:28

    Call me silly, but I figure you guys can bitchslap anyone that offends you. Generally, Poet never got too far out of hand. On those occasions when I cringed, I figured he was just venting, or using these things in hyperbole. My deepest apologies for not seeing that it may be so offensive to others and my not dealing with offense taken.

  59. 08/27/2013 01:30

    Indeed, FX, Gyrwan speaks/writes very well, and will fit nicely for sure.

  60. 08/27/2013 04:24

    CM, you have nothing to apologize for! What various Idiots may choose to spew here (myself included) are not your fault!

    Some of us may choose to stomp on idiots faster but, your only possible fault is being a nice guy! That the last I checked is not a real fault!

    Be Cool!

  61. 08/27/2013 08:48

    Thank you.

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